More tea vicar?

Never let the facts get in the way of a good theory. …

The problem with a manic view of the world is that one tends to miss the obvious faults in one's beliefs. Take for an example the way that militant tendencies in the earth-sciences a tend to ward off evil spirits. Once challenged to think, they tend to throw brickbats.

I speak as one who knows. (Blessed are the peacemakers for they get sick and tired of the alternative eventually and see reason. Or not, as the case may be.)

I never liked the idea of “fossil fuel”. It just sounded daft. But all I had to go on was an amateur opinion. And the world is in the hands of experts. So I became an isolated faction. Who was I to point out to multi-billion corporations that their empires were built on sand?

But that was the problem after all.
Their empires were not built on sand, they were built on calcium carbonate.

Limestone is the rock they look under for signs of life.
They look under thousands of tons of it, millions of tons, billions of tons.

But everyone knows that acid bogs are few and far between. And that it wouldn't take much calcium oxide to ruin them.
In fact every now and again even the BBC, the arch-diocese of the theory of evolution, points out how much danger the environment is in when farmers remove too much peat, stop sheep overgrazing poor land and let the trees in.

Just how much poor or infertile soil is there for example a place like England with its plentiful supply of rainwater?

Enough to make it the most densely populated country in Europe.
And the magnet of the moment for the rest of the undeveloped world.

Is it really so?


5 thoughts on “More tea vicar?

  1. England sits on a bed of coal that goes down miles. And below that for all we know lies even greater riches in the constantly evolving methane it insists on producing.But wait a minute…Acid soil produces only a few millimeters of peat a year. And on the surface at that, not miles underground!And if it is not freely grazed -as would happen without a market for sheep, it would go to forest and dry out. Fallen trees would have a great difficulty in not decomposing. Even in tundra, the number of logs available for examination to climatologists is few. Very few.So few, it makes their theories more than a little suspect.But even supposing the flora of a past millennium -or at most two, were able to support a carbon growth industry on an industrial scale, how would it get a cement overcoat to make drilling worthwhile?Or, to be a little more challenging and a lot more sensible:Where would the calcium come from?The whole point of having a peat bog scenario is that there would have to be no calcium carbonate. But the odd thing is that you never EVER find coal in a region that has no calcium.In fact I will go one better:The only reason we had an industrial revolution in Britain is that we had iron, coal and calcium all in the same place at the same time.And I will tell you the facts of life too:We aren't the only ones.You don't grow coal where there is no iron and calcium.How do like them apples?

  2. But that's the second problem: Carbon Dioxide.There is as much carbon dioxide in the air in rain forests as there is in desert environments and in industrial cities:Originally posted by Wikipedia again:

    Carbon dioxide in earth's atmosphere is considered a trace gas.[It has a] concentration of about 390 parts per million by volume or 591 parts per million by mass [in the atmosphere and] there is about fifty times as much carbon dissolved in the sea water of the oceans in the form of CO2 and carbonic acid, bicarbonate and carbonate ions.The oceans act as an enormous carbon sink, and have taken up about a third of CO2 emitted by human activity.

    Carbon dioxide is “a trace gas at a concentration of 0.039% by volume.” In fact at Originally posted by guess who again…:

    1% can cause drowsiness with prolonged exposure; at 2% it is mildly narcotic and causes increased blood pressure and pulse rate, and causes reduced hearing. And at about 5% it causes stimulation of the respiratory centre, dizziness, confusion and difficulty in breathing accompanied by headache and shortness of breath. Panic attacks may also occur at this concentration.At about 8% it causes headache, sweating, dim vision, tremor and loss of consciousness after exposure for between five and ten minutes. The U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration says that average exposure for healthy adults during an eight-hour work day should not exceed 5,000 ppm (0.5%).

    Or to put it another way, life as we know it (and nobody else does, do they?) would not exist with the elevated levels some idiots would have us believe possible.But let us look at it from another point of view.Rain forests are starved of minerals one of which is carbon dioxide. As it happens there is enough light in the regions of such fertile places to produce more growth but unfortunately the balance is controlled by what little minerals are available being consumed by the most robust vegetables.And they are limited by height to the extent to which they can grow. (In fact they are also limited by their neighbours. A lone tree or a small wood is more susceptible to wind damage than a large forest. So it comes down to a chicken and egg situation.)In higher latitudes (regions further from the tropics) mineral availability is not a problem. Light is and so is water. Given enough light and water there is enough carbon dioxide to supply the needs of a temperate forest. Even regions well know for their coolness have endless tracts of forest.All that from “a trace gas at a concentration of 0.039%.”

  3. Originally posted by the Wikipedia:

    Peat forms in wetland bogs, moors, muskegs, pocosins, mires, and peat swamp forests. There are about 4 trillion m³ of peat in the world covering a total of around 2% of global land area (about 3 million km²), containing about 8 billion terajoules of energy.Under proper conditions, peat will turn into lignite coal over geologic periods of time.Peat forms when plant material, usually in marshy areas, is inhibited from decaying fully by acidic and anaerobic conditions. It is composed mainly of marshland vegetation: trees, grasses, fungi, as well as other types of organic remains, such as insects, and animal remains. Under certain conditions, the decomposition of the latter (in the absence of oxygen) is inhibited.Peat layer growth and the degree of decomposition depends on its composition and on the degree of waterlogging. Peat formed in very wet conditions accumulates considerably faster, and is less decomposed, than that in drier places.[Peat] grows at the rate of about a millimetre per year.

    There you have it, “Under proper conditions” or to put it another way… Controlled:

    It takes centuries for a peat bog to regenerate.The world's largest peat bog is thawing. As the permafrost melts, it could release billions of tons of methane gas into the atmosphere.

    [Natural decay or enforced preservation?]

    The world's peatlands are thought to contain 180 to 455 billion metric tons of sequestered carbon, and they release into the atmosphere 20 to 45 million metric tons of methane annually. As a result of peat drainage, the organic carbon that and is normally under water, decomposes and turns into carbon dioxide (CO2), which is released into the atmosphere.Peat has a high carbon content and can burn under low moisture conditions. These smoldering fires can burn undetected for months, years and even centuries.

    [The Wikipedia discussion then goes on to a (slanted) discussion about what nature would do if men were not already doing it.]In North America, peat fires have a returning cycle (70–130 years) depending on the recolonization by Black Spruce. Once a fire has burnt through the area, hollows in the peat are burnt out, and hummocks are desiccated but can contribute to Sphagnum recolonization.More than 100 peat fires in Kalimantan and East Sumatra have continued to burn since 1997. Each year, the peat fires in Kalimantan and East Sumatra ignite new forest fires above the ground.In the summer of 2010, an unusually high heat wave of up to 40 °C ignited large deposits of peat in Central Russia, burning thousands of houses and covering the capital of Moscow with a toxic smoke blanket. The situation remained critical until the end of August 2010[/quote]Now lets dig through the detritus and bear in mind the carpet of paradise enjoyed by denizens of earth when we look after things naturally:No mention was made in the article about calcium carbonate. Reading between the lines you get a picture of stunted growth mitigated by fire forming a natural cycle.We DO know that trees will grow on peatlands but trees require nutriment and there we fall on hard ground.The earth is 93 million miles from the sun and thus only receives enough light to produce as much vegetation as can be found in old growth rain forest. But rain forest tends not to produce peat. Something better understood results instead:Mould.Ever tried to keep things in a damp room?Without proper ventilation the stuff rots, or at best turns mildewy and gets thrown out.With the best will in the world, untreated timber in well built houses falls foul of dry or wet rot. An house will not last long untended.Where do you think the Ancient Roman Villas of England went to?Just the brick and stone remain. (And the concrete.)If a peat bog dries out as it must (untended, eventually) some form of ignition takes place and the peat evolves into the same thing coal and petrol does: Carbon dioxide.

  4. Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

    [It has a] concentration of about 390 parts per million by volume or 591 parts per million by mass [in the atmosphere and] there is about fifty times as much carbon dissolved in the sea water of the oceans in the form of CO2 and carbonic acid, bicarbonate and carbonate ions.

    Aproximate percentages for atmospheric gases:N2 – 78.08O2 – 20.95Ar — 0.93CO2 – 0.036Ne— 0.0015He — 0.0005Kr — 0.0001Xe — 0.000005H2 – -0.00001CH4 – 0.00017O3 — 0.000003 to 0.001By volume in PPM:N2 780.000O2 209.500Ar – 9.300Ne —- 15He —– 5Kr —– 1Xe —–0.5H2O —- 0.1 to 40.000CO2 — ≥0.0360 to ≥360CH4 — ≥0.00017 to ≥1,7O3 —– 0.03 to 10I prefer this version:

    Air contains roughly 78% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, trace amounts of other gases, and a variable amount (average around 1%) of water vapour.

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  5. There is no way that these people could be wrong and me right is there?Surely there is no way that these people, all the climatologists everywhere, all the meteorologists who believe what they say and all the other weather experts everywhere could be wrong and me right is there?NSFW

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