Sunevevenus

I saw a great light.

Actually I saw 2 not counting the moon. The three of them were lined up, equally spaced. I knew one was venus and the other was the moon but I didn't know the other was Jupiter. …

[quot=NASA] Explanation: Brilliant Venus now shines in western skies at twilight. Shrouded in reflective clouds, careful imaging with filters reveals cloud patterns. Captured early last month from a backyard observatory on video camera.

Recorded through near-ultraviolet, green, and near-infrared filters (left), and red, green, and blue filters.

Venus was high above the western horizon just before sunset. = High "+" declination.

This season's evening apparition of Venus are the best ones in the northern hemisphere for 7 years. It will ultimately end with a solar transit of the planet, the last one to occur in your lifetime, on June 5/6.[/quote]
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap120301.html

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3 thoughts on “Sunevevenus

  1. Science of course demands proof. And controlled experiment is the Scientific Method".Like evolution, glowballs is not a science.It is a philosophy.As such, its beliefs are those of a religion more than that of a science.Anyone, of any religion, can believe in scientific facts.Belief in scientific fancies are more limited.It would be nice to get the text from that speech as it contains quite a few unjustified quantum leaps, not of faith but of facts.He relates the radiation from Venus to its atmospheric content without, for example, discussing the nearness of Venus to the sun and the effect of solar radiation on the upper atmosphere.Another one was the snippet about buoys measuring ocean temperatures.It's fairly obvious from the global temperature charts of oceans that these are related to over-fishing not carbon dioxide.Yet he uses the melt of glaciers and etc., to emphasise this heat build up without explaining how the enormous latent heat absorption of the melting ice has not managed to keep temperatures down.Or is the tiny increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide likely to have had an as yet unreported immense effect?(I don't think any body has come up with a model to show that can happen.)The increased carbon dioxide is supposed to raise sea levels without increasing cloud levels-and in fact atmosphere water content all round.Is it doing the latter?If it is, how is the earth going to stop getting colder whilst it is heating due to the carbon dioxide?Water in the sky carries heat to the outer limits.AndWater in the sky reflects sunlight away from the earth.Water is lighter than carbon dioxide until the water condenses and becomes an heat shield above the carbon dioxide-rich layer.I am not a climate change denier.I am not a glowballs denier.I am just wondering what some people are actually saying.And why.

  2. I couldn't find the text on this so I can argue the other side.Basically the first 2 or 3 minutes are interesting but then he argues about the effect of the envelope around Venus as it applies to the Earth.That's what is known as a quantum leap.He has some justifiable remarks about the political chicanery going on. How he used the front page of NASA's Mission Statement to write a speech about global warming.And that is about it.It's just rehashed shoves and hydraulic jumps from one theory to the next.

  3. Originally posted by James Lovelock in the Independent.co.uk:

    Imagine a young policewoman delighted in the fulfilment of her vocation; then imagine her having to tell a family whose child had strayed that he had been found dead, murdered in a nearby wood. Or think of a young physician newly appointed who has to tell you that the biopsy revealed invasion by an aggressive metastasising tumour. Doctors and the police know that many accept the simple awful truth with dignity but others try in vain to deny it.Whatever the response, the bringers of such bad news rarely become hardened to their task and some dread it. We have relieved judges of the awesome responsibility of passing the death sentence, but at least they had some comfort from its frequent moral justification. Physicians and the police have no escape from their duty.This article is the most difficult I have written and for the same reasons. My Gaia theory sees the Earth behaving as if it were alive, and clearly anything alive can enjoy good health, or suffer disease. Gaia has made me a planetary physician and I take my profession seriously, and now I, too, have to bring bad news.The climate centres around the world, which are the equivalent of the pathology lab of a hospital, have reported the Earth's physical condition, and the climate specialists see it as seriously ill, and soon to pass into a morbid fever that may last as long as 100,000 years. I have to tell you, as members of the Earth's family and an intimate part of it, that you and especially civilisation are in grave danger.Our planet has kept itself healthy and fit for life, just like an animal does, for most of the more than three billion years of its existence. It was ill luck that we started polluting at a time when the sun is too hot for comfort. We have given Gaia a fever and soon her condition will worsen to a state like a coma. She has been there before and recovered, but it took more than 100,000 years. We are responsible and will suffer the consequences: as the century progresses, the temperature will rise 8 degrees centigrade in temperate regions and 5 degrees in the tropics.Much of the tropical land mass will become scrub and desert, and will no longer serve for regulation; this adds to the 40 per cent of the Earth's surface we have depleted to feed ourselves.Curiously, aerosol pollution of the northern hemisphere reduces global warming by reflecting sunlight back to space. This "global dimming" is transient and could disappear in a few days like the smoke that it is, leaving us fully exposed to the heat of the global greenhouse. We are in a fool's climate, accidentally kept cool by smoke, and before this century is over billions of us will die and the few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in the Arctic where the climate remains tolerable.By failing to see that the Earth regulates its climate and composition, we have blundered into trying to do it ourselves, acting as if we were in charge. By doing this, we condemn ourselves to the worst form of slavery. If we chose to be the stewards of the Earth, then we are responsible for keeping the atmosphere, the ocean and the land surface right for life. A task we would soon find impossible – and something before we treated Gaia so badly, she had freely done for us.To understand how impossible it is, think about how you would regulate your own temperature or the composition of your blood. Those with failing kidneys know the never-ending daily difficulty of adjusting water, salt and protein intake. The technological fix of dialysis helps, but is no replacement for living healthy kidneys.My new book The Revenge of Gaia expands these thoughts, but you still may ask why science took so long to recognise the true nature of the Earth. I think it is because Darwin's vision was so good and clear that it has taken until now to digest it. In his time, little was known about the chemistry of the atmosphere and oceans, and there would have been little reason for him to wonder if organisms changed their environment as well as adapting to it.Had it been known then that life and the environment are closely coupled, Darwin would have seen that evolution involved not just the organisms, but the whole planetary surface. We might then have looked upon the Earth as if it were alive, and known that we cannot pollute the air or use the Earth's skin – its forest and ocean ecosystems – as a mere source of products to feed ourselves and furnish our homes. We would have felt instinctively that those ecosystems must be left untouched because they were part of the living Earth.So what should we do? First, we have to keep in mind the awesome pace of change and realise how little time is left to act; and then each community and nation must find the best use of the resources they have to sustain civilisation for as long as they can. Civilisation is energy-intensive and we cannot turn it off without crashing, so we need the security of a powered descent. On these British Isles, we are used to thinking of all humanity and not just ourselves; environmental change is global, but we have to deal with the consequences here in the UK.Unfortunately our nation is now so urbanised as to be like a large city and we have only a small acreage of agriculture and forestry. We are dependent on the trading world for sustenance; climate change will deny us regular supplies of food and fuel from overseas.We could grow enough to feed ourselves on the diet of the Second World War, but the notion that there is land to spare to grow biofuels, or be the site of wind farms, is ludicrous. We will do our best to survive, but sadly I cannot see the United States or the emerging economies of China and India cutting back in time, and they are the main source of emissions. The worst will happen and survivors will have to adapt to a hell of a climate.Perhaps the saddest thing is that Gaia will lose as much or more than we do. Not only will wildlife and whole ecosystems go extinct, but in human civilisation the planet has a precious resource. We are not merely a disease; we are, through our intelligence and communication, the nervous system of the planet. Through us, Gaia has seen herself from space, and begins to know her place in the universe.We should be the heart and mind of the Earth, not its malady. So let us be brave and cease thinking of human needs and rights alone, and see that we have harmed the living Earth and need to make our peace with Gaia. We must do it while we are still strong enough to negotiate, and not a broken rabble led by brutal war lords. Most of all, we should remember that we are a part of it, and it is indeed our home.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/james-lovelock-the-earth-is-about-to-catch-a-morbid-fever-that-may-last-as-long-as-100000-years-523161.html

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