The next big thing?

19th-20th July 2012. …

This annimation covers Wednesday to Saturday the 18th to 21st July 2012.

There is a strange or unusual at least, set up on here on Thursday and Friday.

All around the continent the isobars stretch to an almost unbroken circle. If they were standing off somewhat leaving a gap on the shoreline, Iwould say it is a massive storm brewing. But the isobars even cross into the continent just before the Antarctic Peninsula at about 160 west.

At this longitude, a severe earthquake event takes place.

Is this the volcanic eruption of the year?
I confess to expecting one, but I only have blind guesswork or fancy to go on. That and the wet weather and lack of a severe volcanic display for a few weeks.

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30 thoughts on “The next big thing?

  1. Very interesting. It immediately called to mind the hexagonal cloud structures found over Saturns North Pole.Is it possible that Earth could fall into the sake sort of highly predictable weather pattern? Could this be the sort of structure that all planets eventually achieve? If so, could it also he used as a model upon which to base the eventual structure of the planet itself?If all things exist in varying degrees of fluidity, as I believe they do, then the answer would be yes.As ever, good work.

  2. Originally posted by honogica:

    Is it possible that Earth could fall into the sake sort of highly predictable weather pattern?

    The North Atlantic and the Antarctic are very revealing.When I first took a look at the southern hemisphere it resembled a Stator plate from a motorcycle generator.The cyclones the black things slid onto the coast from the east coasts of all three continents. They travel about 120 degrees to do it normally and produce one of four things:earthquakes, tornadoes, tropical storms and well I haven't seen a volcanic one yet.If it's going to be a big quake the cyclone that went around the block is joined by an injection directly from the continent above it.I imagine that is going on on all the planets not just Jupiter.When the isobars form a triange on the continet (usually over about a 1/4 of the Antarctic) with the apex at the pole, it is going to be a tropical storm.We had something with the derecho recently but I forget what. I think it was like this but a gap all around the coast.The charts are on here somewhere.I aught to compile a list, an index of some sort.Wanna job?

  3. Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

    If it's going to be a big quake

    Other signals will be coming in from other sources.Weather forecasts will go wrong, and a run of ?? weather will come to an end. Though you won't see that in advance.It's the end of a series of lunar phases that go along with wet weather* on Thursday. But although it looks like sunny skies ahead, I've always associated times like these:19 Jul 19 @ 04:24http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001gmt.htmlwith strong volcanic eruptions.But you usually get plenty of warning for those.Something is obviously up but goodness knows what.*In Britain, other places have their own problems. Some similar, others completely different.

  4. Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

    a run of ?? weather

    Originally posted by Earth Observatory:

    Farmers across the United States hoped for rain in July 2012 as a drought of historic proportions parched key commodity crops, including corn, soybeans, and wheat. On July 11, the United States Department of Agriculture announced that more than 1,000 counties in 26 states qualified as natural disaster areas—the largest total area ever declared a disaster zone by the agency. The most severe damage to crops appears to be centered on Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas, Kansas, Nebraska, and South Dakota. Crops in much of the upper Midwest—southern Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, southern Illinois, western Kentucky, and western Tennessee—also show signs of strain. States in the Mountain West that are in the midst of a busy wildfire season—Montana, Wyoming, and Colorado—have also experienced marked declines in the health of vegetation. The drought has been less severe in Iowa, a key corn-growing state.

    http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=78553&src=eoa-iotd

  5. Originally posted by Unasia:

    We finally got some rain, the corn surrounding is bleak…we will see.

    You have had a bad harvest because of drought, we hav had abad harvest because of flood.I was listening to an interview at a charity distribution point on the radio today. The programme was comparing hungry Brits with Starving Yemenis.A woman in Britain has a daughter and herself to feed on £10 a week. (they didn't go into her finances, just how much money she had for food.)She hadn't eaten for 5 days. She was at a food distribution point. ANotgher wman there couldn't afford both food and cigarettes. So she joined the queue too.Then they went to the Yemen and interviewed a woman whose 4 year old son died weighing 4 kilogrammes.Another woman spoke of the doctor who told her the baby must have treatment. When she said she couldn't afford it he said there were too many for him to help.The interviewer also spoke of the food stalls in the towns. There is plenty of food and the Yemen is surrounded by rich Arab nations. But Oxfam has to provide the money for some to buy the food.It is just too expensive.makes you wonder why they didn't unite and get violent like they did to oust the government.What's going to happen next year when there is no food?It will be very expensive if there isn't a seasonal bounty before winter. I can't see how.Something called winter wheat perhaps? Or maybe we will have to grow the cheaper cereals such as oats, millet and the other stuff not commonly grown in this country.

  6. I see signs here of problems, but while the extreme temps are unusual, unusual weather is not.My buddy gets rich (a/c refrigeration) but hates it. Extremes do though increase many service related industry including auto. I think here we see the beginning of cannibalism in polotics and wall street as the the blame game is heating up, and its getting nasty. I dont think it will go well, but was bound to happen when the thieves run things, and they start getting caught. There is no honor amongst thieves, watch and see.

  7. Originally posted by Unasia:

    My buddy gets rich (a/c refrigeration) but hates it.

    Eat less protein and more salads with stuff in it from this lecture.http://video.ted.com/talk/podcast/2010/None/WilliamLi_2010.mp4If it doesn't help, it won't kill you and will save a few dollars on the food bill.Originally posted by Unasia:

    I think here we see the beginning of cannibalism in politics and wall street as the the blame game is heating up

    They are actually doing something about all that?Over here it has been swept under the carpet. I thought that was the way it was going earth-wide. Good for you!Their are food kitchens for starving people in this country.Fancy that happening in a welfare state!Someone is going to pay for making us suffer this depression. They cover their tracks and get big pay-offs but dirty people have dirty lives and dirty endings.

  8. It looks like Khanun made it through to this spell. No doubt things will take off with that becoming a Cat 3 or 4.Or not, as the case might be.Also look for related earthquakes in New Zealand areas. (New Zealand Kermadec etc.)Hmmm…Looks like PNG: 2012/07/204.6 M. @ 01:26. -5.4. 146.7. E. NEW GUINEA REG, PAPUA NEW GUINEA.This is from the death of Fabio:5.0 M. @ 01:19. 49.3. 156.0. KURIL ISLANDSThere will be a quake or two from the Fijian Triangle about it.http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/e_pacific/2012/index.phpMixed up with the PNG stuff?

  9. Soooo, forgive me for not fully understanding, but I have a pressures question, has it been abnormally low or high over my area? My vertigo is back, after three month respit.

  10. Before checking the charts for this spell I noticed that Khanun was srill alive and posted that it would grow like Topsy.https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/sci.geo.earthquakes/k3Moc0pJWCwhttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/uk.sci.weather/LiLeyH5xKwkUnfortunately, according the the North Atlantic it is due to die on Sunday.The earthquakes are already turning up for the funeral.On Monday the low that gfave the signal for my idiocy, runs aground on Iceland and from there it splits apart in what is called an elongation. (A type of "Trough of Low Pressure".)So what that apparition around Antarctica turned into was what in the eastern North Atlantic would be called a Col. A period of nothing dramatic. Such a period corresponds to a negative NAO (North Atlantic Anomally.) This is a a state of the ocean where all the air pressure just above it is fairly near the median 1016 millibar level.What have I learned from this?1. I am not god.2. I really do act stupidly for someone who really hates being wrong.

  11. Originally posted by Unasia:

    Soooo, forgive me for not fully understanding, but I have a pressures question, has it been abnormally low or high over my area? My vertigo is back, after three month respite.

    When was the last time we had the same weather?I seem to recall that (for Britain) it has rained about that long. It certainly seemed like a monsoon and we never get them.I gather the USA has had the exact opposite causing almost the exact same damage to crops.http://weather.unisys.com/sat_sfc_map_loop.php shows Low Pressure over you coming in from the Rockies.SNYAF. :)I could do a grab of some archived charts for the US but they are so full of useful information they are almost impossible to read. It's the wind speeds and directions I find the most annoying. (The ¬ and F symbols.)If you can see the pressure system and isobars what the heck do you need a wind rose for? Never mind your vertigo, the price of bread is going to make you even dizzier.

  12. Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

    I could do a grab of some archived charts for the US but they are so full of useful information they are almost impossible to read. It's the wind speeds and directions I find the most annoying. (The ¬ and F symbols.)

    These are useless to me:http://weather.unisys.com/archive/sfc_map/0004/If I were a trained meteorologist, I'd be in pig heaven. But I am not and it looks like a green storm to me.

  13. Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

    It seems that they are both Low Lows and low Highs.

    Whoops.The Pacific is negative oscilation and the Atlantic is just being awkward. A positive situation is when the Lows are low and the Highs are high. Anticyclones can go to 1960 mb and more Lows can go below 900 IIRC.Originally posted by USA Today:

    The highest barometric pressure ever recorded on Earth was 32.01 inches, measured in Agata, U.S.S.R., on December 31, 1968. Agata is located in northern Siberia. The weather was clear and very cold at the time, with temperatures between -40° and -58°.The lowest pressure ever measured was 25.69 inches, set on Oct. 12, 1979, during Typhoon Tip in the western Pacific Ocean. The measurement was based on an instrumental observation made from a reconnaissance aircraft.An excellent reference for extreme weather records like this is Paul F. Krause's technical report Weather and Climate Extremes, the contents of which I haven't found anywhere online. The report can be ordered through the National Technical Information Service, which is part of the U.S. Department of Commerce.(Answered by Doyle Rice, USA TODAY’s weather editor, January 24, 2007)

    http://www.usatoday.com/weather/resources/askjack/wfaqpres.htm(Worth a read.)Originally posted by Mr. Kish's Weather Facts Page:

    Highest barometric pressure — world record: 1083.6millibars (32.01 inches.)Lowest barometric pressure recorded in the western hemisphere: October 19, 2005, Hurricane Wilma, with a pressure of 882 mb (26.045 inches of mercury at 0C) is the most intense hurricane on record in the Atlantic Basin; Previously, 888 millibars (26.17 inches) during Hurricane Gilbert (1988).

    homework.sdmesa.edu/mgramada/Weather Facts.htm (Last updated 2005.)

  14. This is more like it:http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/A_sfc_full_ocean.jpgIt has some wind flags but nothing silly and covers a far larger area than the Met Office does.In fact I might consider taking it over along with:http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/A_sfc_full_ocean.jpgIn fact the whole thing is a gift from god through cousin Sam. Thanks bro.Click on this:http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/Then click on your location. That will tell you exactly what's going on.The median line is 1016. It goes all around the globe like a fence keeping the Highs and the lows apart.So a Low of 966 mb is lowAnd an High of 1020 is also low. and High of 1016 is just being pedantic.There is a northern hemisphere situation called the Pacific Atlantic something or other (oscillation? wave?) where one is strong or positive and the other is weak or negative.But with these:It seems that they are both Low Lows and low Highs. Positively negative. We aught to name them before someone snaffles the idea.But I can't believe the Bjerkenes School didn't already have it tagged.How many permutations can there be?1. All Low as above.2. All High.3. All low Lows…This could take all day.Find the one that fits and move to better climes for the duration.

  15. I will say,"unwittingly" a word often associated with my name, you gave me the biggest info, what the standards are for our atmosphere in pressures. , is there a site that shows both standards and extremes of pressures in association to lets say, water vapor..or is there not. The gifs help a lot, really, thats how I started to monitor earthquakes, by subdividing categories and cycling through timelines. It gave indicators in a short time, and gave life to the movement itself of the ring of fire. I have learned, I think, the us west coast is just a crumble waiting to happen. It would be interesting to see a comparative chart of earthquake activity and solar cycles. hmmm. Of course all this information seems somewhat stark relative to time and record keeping.

  16. Originally posted by Unasia:

    is there a site that shows both standards and extremes of pressures in association to lets say, water vapour.

    There is a lot of data on water in the air. It comes under humidity.Almost 100% in fogs and monsoons and very high in places like New York in summer, very low in places like Arizona except for a couple of weeks in summer.But the rest of it is really the definition of weather. The Low pressure areas are low pressure because they contain so much water which is lighter than air.The Highs contain so little because it condensed out at the top of the tropopause. The troposphere is the layer between the sea and the sky. The tropopause is the upper limit for water.It comes out as laboratory pure, "Analar" quality. So pure and the surrounding air so clean, it can't freeze.Some of it comes ou or falls down to the lower cloud layer and some of it stays up in the frozen region as ice cloud. That's the stuff that is so dangerous to planes.The warm dry weather in summer and hard frosty winter weather that is so sunny is anticyclonic or dry air. They are famously starry nights.The mirky low cloud is wet. In Britain that is pretty much the standard. I don't believe it is the type of weather that is causing weather related illnesses. (I mean: I don't think it is down to amount of rain or cloud cover.)I could be wrong of course. But I think it is the sound of the part of the planet where you live, subsonic noise, below the hearing threshold of most of us, that causes joint pain and other sympathetic illnesses.When there is no blocking High or Low in the North Atlantic (for one region) the run of the lunar phases govern the wave trains of this acoustic phenomenon.Somehow it is related to the other planets too. Maybe in the way that the solar system winds co-operate?Or somehow in the way that offshore breezes are directed over mountain tops.It is cutting edge research at the moment, that winds compressed at mountain ranges make a huge amount of noise going over the top. Since Meteorology is not interested, the research is in the hands of a few South American universities.Such a researcher was Bernard Chouet with his outrageous theory about harmonics and volcanoes. Nobody listened to him until some experts all got killed on an expedition he warned them against making.Now he has a top job at the USGS or NOAA or somewhere prestigious.Current research in Britain is in the hands of Climatologists. In fact there was a spate of redundancies all over Britain a few years ago, getting rid of Meteorologists.The bean counters realised auto-data was far cheaper than the people who had hands on experience.And now it shows. The present crop of weather presenters are chosen for their childish ingenuity. The Commander in Chief of the Fairies in the BBC is famous for the quote "The British public is not ready for the jet stream."Before Britain became a heavily industrial nation and even in late Victorian times in most country places, there was a tradition of beating the bounds.The responsible adults of every town and village would take the children of a certain age all around the town limits and point out local landmarks to them and give them a clout or a treat to make them remember the place.Meteorologists were trained a bit like that.They had to walk around the airports and weather stations where they were based twice a day or more, in all weathers, checking on the weather equipment and reading the data manually.They soon got a feel for the weather in their bones. The same thing happens to any man who works outdoors in all weathers, farmers and sailors and the like.My first advice to you was to take walks around your neighbourhood every day. It's how you tune into the planet. Everything registers, the way animals act up, how birds behave and even how people are feeling.Even the days when the passing traffic is more dangerous than others. But best of all, you get to know the weather by the way you feel.With me I can actually count the clicks sometimes.

  17. my vertigo is set up by head positioning, when it happens, and its gotten worse, you feel like you chugged a fifth of whiskey the way things spin. this is what your eyes do. http://youtu.be/fBDXQchKapUit had been quiet for 3 months. Now It takes an hour to get back to plumb from laying down, really, I walk sideways first thing in the morning.and you have helped considerably, I am making connections with pressure and climate.

  18. VICENTE NW Pacific 19.9 N 115.0 E 55 kts TS 21.6 N 112.5 E 65 kts 1 http://www.tropicalstormrisk.com/Now take a look at:http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/surface_pressure.htmlLook at the red fronts around that cyclone. They remind me of cartoon mice.And earthquakes.Lunar phases of 4 or 10 O'clock should be volcanic spells.Big disappointment.But most volcanoes are unreported. Most take place underwater. They never threaten airline routes so are totally ignored.That's a big problem for me and it gives ordinary people with better things to do, no idea how commonplace they are.So…How does a 9th storm get to be called Vince?

  19. Originally posted by Unasia:

    it had been quiet for 3 months.

    That's about when I bougfht a straw hat.And it started raining.Just a few days earlier there had been a suoperquake in Indonesia IIRC. Or was that the one before?

  20. The Blocking Highs in the North Pacific and North Carolina winds.Any relationship?23/07/12  3.2   M. @ 08:57:45    40.389   -125.175   OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA 4.8   M. @ 07:09:34    52.027   -179.811   ANDREANOF ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN IS., ALASKA 5.0   M. @ 06:54:38    52.266    173.336   NEAR ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN ISLANDS, ALASKA 4.1   M. @ 00:50:02    52.112   -170.397   FOX ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN ISLANDS, ALASKAI've never seen a Blocking Pacific High so I can't say what this has to do with anything. There is a lot of good discussion on the Earth Observatory web pages about this inter oceaninc business:http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/category.php?cat_id=5None of it confirming my ideas of course. But even so some of their bods in the backroom have had startling ideas of their own.

  21. Originally posted by Weatherlawyer:

    They travel about 120 degrees to do it normally and produce one of four things:earthquakes, tornadoes, tropical storms and well I haven't seen a volcanic one yet.

    Volcanic eruptions are signalled by those black masses sliding along to a blocked atmosphere. In this case it was South America.Normally when the situation allows the air will esacpe out over an ocean -in that case a Blocked High will develop. A Blocked High is a the sort of weather we have just had for the last few weeks.It takes place in the North Atlantic but I believe they are just as common in the North Pacific. During blips in such spells a Low from the USA or Canada can slip through the blockage and at that time a nasty set of tornadoes hits the US plain.When that is stymied by a land mass, the blockage has no leeway and for some reason a volcano vents dramatically. None of which is cause and effect just symptoms of Earth's climate.Planes still fall from the sky though -or trains hit your favorite restaurant and cook your goose.

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